Joy Reid says DeSantis warning to looters in Ian’s aftermath is like racist threat from ‘segregationist’


Taking to Twitter, MSNBC host Joy Reid bashed Gov. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla., for warning potential criminals against looting the evacuated homes of Hurricane Ian survivors in Florida, linking his statements to racist cops and politicians of the segregation era. 

On Saturday, the host of MSNBC’s “The ReidOut” tweeted that DeSantis telling people not to loot and warning they might be shot by gun-carrying Floridians had the same tone as “segregationist Miami sheriff Walter E. Headley” infamously saying, “When the looting starts, the shooting starts” in the ’60s.

In addition, Reid’s tweet linked to an NPR article about the racist history, connecting it to vicious segregationists and anti-Black politicians such as Eugene “Bull” Conner. She mentioned how DeSantis’ words show he’s returned to that “form.”                                                                                                  


Reid took issue with the Florida governor’s recent press conference about the state of recovery in Florida after the devastation wrought by Hurricane Ian. In the presser, the Florida governor mentioned his concerns about potential looting that could happen in the absence of infrastructure.

He said, “The other thing that we’re concerned about, particularly in those areas that were really hard hit, is, you know, we want to make sure we’re maintaining law and order.” Addressing would-be looters directly, he stated, “Don’t even think about looting. Don’t even think about taking advantage of people in this vulnerable situation.”

DeSantis continued, saying that “local law enforcement is involved and monitoring that.” He explained, “you can have people bringing boats into some of these islands and trying to ransack people’s homes.”

He then laid out his warning: “I can tell you in the state of Florida, you never know what may be lurking behind somebody’s home. And I would not want to chance that if I were you, given that we’re a Second Amendment state.”

Though DeSantis merely warned about what the typical Floridian might do to home invaders and looters, Reid linked it to a racist threat from law enforcement in the ’60s. 

Responding to the CBS News clip of DeSantis’ words, she tweeted, “’When the looting starts, the shooting starts.’—segregationist Miami sheriff Walter E. Headley, 1967.”


SARASOTA, FL - SEPTEMBER 28: Wind gusts blow across Sarasota Bay as Hurricane Ian churns to the south on September 28, 2022 in Sarasota, Florida. The storm made a U.S. landfall at Cayo Costa, Florida this afternoon as a Category 4 hurricane with wind speeds over 140 miles per hour in some areas. 

She added, “Didn’t take DeSantis long to return to form,” and shared the 2020 NPR articled, titled, “The History Behind ‘When The Looting Starts, The Shooting Starts.’”

The piece itself said the quote “dates back to the civil rights era and is known to have been invoked by a white police chief cracking down on protests and a segregationist politician.”

NPR also reported, “In 1967, Miami police Chief Walter Headley used the phrase ‘when the looting starts, the shooting starts’ during hearings about crime in the Florida city, invoking angry reactions from civil rights leaders, according to a news report at the time.”

According to Howard University professor Clarence Lusane, Headley, “He had a long history of bigotry against the black community.”

The piece also featured Lusane’s claim that “Headley may have borrowed the phrase from Eugene ‘Bull’ Connor, who had been the notorious public safety commissioner in Birmingham, Ala. Connor was a segregationist who directed the use of police dogs and fire hoses against black demonstrators.”

Fl. Gov. Ron DeSantis recently warned looters from going into Floridians' homes after Hurricane Ian, saying Floridians value the Second Amendment. 

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